posted 03-02-2004 07:17 AM         

If you have done all required maintenance and had not reached the maintenance interval and the thing fails, VW CANNOT claim lack of maintiance.

Get on the horn to VW customer care (if you haven't already), and tell them you need them to stand behind their products or it will be ANOTHER lawsuit for them!

posted 03-03-2004 07:13 AM         

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Thank you LF I was about to post the same thing.

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...but my other personality "LF" was on my computer.

edmode,

Don't worry about those other two jerks, they have issues beyond turning wrenches for a living.

posted 03-03-2004 08:20 AM            

E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-I-N-G

Tomorrow's word boys and girls will be douchebag...that D-O-U-C-H-E-B-A-G...but I am sure UTR that you already know how to spell that.

posted 03-03-2004 10:36 AM         

Hey, while you are at it, please inform the world of the timing belt change interval for a 2001 1.8T.

That’s what I thought.

Why 'chance it'? Because the owner’s manual is brought up, by dealers, time and time again regarding proper car care.

Does the PD REALLY need 505.01 oil, or is that just a strong suggestion as to what MIGHT work?

So, the owner’s manual doesn’t mean squat?

posted 03-04-2004 10:51 AM         

Check this out:
http://www.vw.com/SP/SchedMaint.html

2001 golf 1.8T has a 105k-mile timing belt. I guess VW is crap, if their car cannot meet the OFFICIAL 'factory' recommended service intervals.

Crappy parts
Crappy cars
Crappy service

It’s all right there in black and white on the official VWoA website, which corresponds directly with the owner’s manual.

posted 03-08-2004 06:31 AM         

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and a timing belt for 3 and a half grand where are you buying your timing belts?

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posted 03-08-2004 06:43 PM         

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Originally posted by VWTech8176:
Are you actually retarded UTR??? I tell you what, I am going to do you a favor and MAKE you a smarter person. Even though you are an unbeleiveable dick, I am going to do you this favor...I will correct ALL of your spelling and grammatical errors from now on. Then at least those of us that are literate will be able to read your bullshit more clearly....lets start now shall we?
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What has VW Customer Care (1.800.822.8987) said about you following the maintaince scheduele, but experiancing a failure?
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M-A-I-N-T-E-N-A-N-C-E

E-X-P-E-R-I-E-N-C-I-N-G

Tomorrow's word boys and girls will be douchebag...that D-O-U-C-H-E-B-A-G...but I am sure UTR that you already know how to spell that.

The MAINTENANCE (see I can even use it in a sentence for you) schedule doesn't mean dick when the warranty is voided....regardless of what they SAY it will last....if they tell you it would last 250K miles, but the warranty ends at 100K, who is taking the risk here? Not VW, they aren't saying the belt is WARRANTIED for 250K, they are saying it SHOULD, MAYBE will last that long. Why would you chance it??

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posted 03-12-2004 11:14 PM         

As you so boldly point out:Hey class,
Check this out: http://www.vw.com/SP/SchedMaint.html

2001 golf 1.8T has a 105k-mile timing belt. I guess VW is crap, if their car cannot meet the OFFICIAL 'factory' recommended service intervals.

Crappy parts
Crappy cars
Crappy service

It’s all right there in black and white on the official VWoA website, which corresponds directly with the owner’s manual.

Again, please explain how these facts are fraud?

Fraud, and the fraud is you, it also says "check" timing belt at 40 and 80K .

Now oh brain child, why would you have to check it at 40 and 80, gee because it might not make it till 105k depending on a lot of things.

Of course you left that little fact out as usual. You use "facts" as they suit you.

If anyone goes 100k on a timing belt your asking for the inevitable, it's rubber, they break, they weather, they stretch even with a tensioner. Welcome to the real world.

Oh yes, crappy parts? How about plastic coated cam gears with a metal chain, WOW that lasted maybe 50k or how about a fiber cam gear, or aluminum? How about 911 timing chain tensioners?

Ah yes, vaunted Hondas, no timing belt change in the manual for years then massive timing belt problems, then two years later in the manual.

Where the hell have you been over the years? Under rocks?

Yep 102k and a belt breaks, really crappy parts, NOT! Was the car maintained and checked properly? You don''t know, only what is posted, guess, guess, guess.

And the poster a 2001 with 102k that's a lot of miles in a short time it spent soooooooooooo much time in the shop to get that many miles on it.

posted 03-13-2004 01:08 AM         

The 2000 and 2001 model years timing belt replacement at 40k, 60k, 80k, 100k miles (I guess they make the original factory installed one better)
The 2002 model year is every 80, and the 2003 model year is every 100k – WOW that’s some discrepancy.

posted 11-14-2004 11:31 AM            

To the technical wizards admonishing the owners who took the time to read the manual. Grow up little (and I do mean little) boys, you aren't the rocket scientists that you think you are.

Any part for any manufacturer should reasonably last WELL beyond the recommended service interval ... period ... that is if the manufacturer values customers.

I have owned 6 or 7 hondas, timing belt intervals from 60-90K miles, I don't sweat if I am 5K over the interval, and have never heard of anyone (dozens) I recommended a honda to having a timing belt failure. I have heard of premature (near service interval) failures on a couple of Ford models, but timing belt failures in general are pretty rare.

I do agree that 105K is a lot to expect in a TB, but the German engineers that spec the belt should know how long it will last ... under a variety of conditions ... and it is not up to the consumer, who shouldn't know or care what a timing belt does, to second guess published maintnenance intervals.

VWOA needs to get a clue ... it's not enough to make innovative cars that are fun to drive, and then expect some adolescent minded or bleeding heart liberal cult following due to pretty slick marketing.

I don't for a minute expect that the 10K oil change interval for my 2005 TDI is realistic, IF I plan to drive it for the 400-500K that it should reasonably run given a more realistic oil change interval.

preface: I just bought a Jetta TDI wagon, and like it a lot. I have found one thing I really don't like however:

The VW 505 01 Oil Spec for this TDI motor, which in my manual says look on the website for oils meeting the spec, does not exist on the VW website, I was given the wrong list of oils, 501 02, when I emailed VWOA support, and finally the oil (obviously not manufactured by VW) is only available at the dealer under VW labeling.

posted 01-19-2005 10:30 PM         

If a manufacturer actually recommends replacement at 105K miles and the belt breaks before this milestone, then they should technically repair your engine for free becuase the belt should be designed to last at least 150K miles before breaking.
However, what seems logical, is not always the case.

I own a 95 Nissan pickup. The manufacturer recommends replacing the timing belt at 105K miles also. The engine is a V6 interference type engine (valves will strike the pistons if the timing belt breaks while the engine is running) and the truck has about 80K miles on it. I am ready to replace the belt at this point because Nissan told me that they would not fix my engine if the belt breaks before 105K miles. So VW is not the only company that will not help you past the warranty period.

If you have a car with a non-interference engine, you can stretch the timing belt replacement mileage some, however, with an interference engine I would not go past 80K miles, irrespective of what the manufacturer recommends.

posted 02-28-2006 08:34 PM         

My 2001 GTI just blew its timing belt at 79K, maintainence schedule says to replace at 105K, the belt hit the valve, it's going to cost me over $3000. I had it checked at 40k, it died before hitting 80k.
Source: http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=va45
and VW website

We are not the only victims of VW timing belt, I'd say start a class action lawsuit against VW, it's their responsibility to recall defects!!

I posted my class action lawsuit here:
https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/vw

posted 03-13-2006 05:32 PM         

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Originally posted by pm26:
If these timing belts are made by Continental, I am beginning to think that they are of substandard quality. I had a very bad experience with Continental tires, and if VW timing belts are made by the same company, well, they are probably not 105K mile belts, but 40K mile belts. A good timing belt should not break until at least 50% of its recommended life has been exceeded. In other words, a 50% positive safety margin. It looks like VW uses a safety margin of -30% on their timing belts.

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posted 04-10-2006 11:00 PM         

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Originally posted by Up-The-River:
But watch out....those old MBs can run in reverse rotation!

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This would mean that the crankshaft pulley would be turning counterclockwise as looking at the engine from the front.